HELP!!

[darkracer]

what should i get a honda sport bike or a honda car ?

[FreakTimmah]

well bikes are preaty ussless in the winter, but considering you live in texas id say get the bike. also don't be a poser squid and get a 600ss or liter bike as your first one, go for a 500 or 600 standard, mabey even a 250. then work your way up to a sport bike. if you have to get a 600ss as your first go for an older one like an F4i.

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[darkracer]

i want a Yamaha R1 or a Kawasaki Ninja

[FreakTimmah]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkracer:
i want a Yamaha R1 or a Kawasaki Ninja[/quote]

ummmm yeah....have you ever ridden riden before?
if the answer is no then don't get one of those bikes, it doesn't matter how many people tell you it's about "Self control and laying off the throttle" or give you crap about not buying a small bike because you'll lose interest and upgrade....its all bad advice if you ask me. the bottem line is you don't have anywhere near the skills nesscary to ride an R1 or ZX9R. my advice is take the MSF course, pick up a ninja 500ex, yammah seca II or older 600 sportbike. a dual sport like a BMW or a kawaski KLR 650 would be a great starter bike as well, there very practicle and fun, plus you can take em off road. i would say that you need to def start small and work your way up...heres some sites to get you started....

http://home.earthlink.net/~thebradfords/startsmall.htm

http://www.beginnerbikes.com/

http://forums.cycleworld.com/wh07masai/ubb.x

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[00CIVICTURBO]

Wait for the new Honda CBR 1000RR to come out.I think it comes out in the spring.That is the bike to get.

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[99gsrdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FreakTimmah:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkracer:
i want a Yamaha R1 or a Kawasaki Ninja[/quote]

ummmm yeah....have you ever ridden riden before?
if the answer is no then don't get one of those bikes, it doesn't matter how many people tell you it's about "Self control and laying off the throttle" or give you crap about not buying a small bike because you'll lose interest and upgrade....its all bad advice if you ask me. the bottem line is you don't have anywhere near the skills nesscary to ride an R1 or ZX9R. my advice is take the MSF course, pick up a ninja 500ex, yammah seca II or older 600 sportbike. a dual sport like a BMW or a kawaski KLR 650 would be a great starter bike as well, there very practicle and fun, plus you can take em off road. i would say that you need to def start small and work your way up...heres some sites to get you started....

http://home.earthlink.net/~thebradfords/startsmall.htm

http://www.beginnerbikes.com/

http://forums.cycleworld.com/wh07masai/ubb.x

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this advice is somewhat good. but its not really worth it to buy a junk bike, if you are gonns want to upgrade in 2 weeks. i made the same mistake. i bought an R6, this summer. it is a great bike, really fun. but in about a month, it wasnt enough. and now im kicking my ass for not buying the R1 in the first place. trust me,if you have any skill on a bike, then you will want to upgrade before long as well. and then you have to deal with the hassle of trying to sell an old bike. if you dont have any riding experience whatsoever. then it proly would be a good idea to go with something used and small for a first one.

[FreakTimmah]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 99gsrdx:


this advice is somewhat good. but its not really worth it to buy a junk bike, if you are gonns want to upgrade in 2 weeks. i made the same mistake. i bought an R6, this summer. it is a great bike, really fun. but in about a month, it wasnt enough. and now im kicking my ass for not buying the R1 in the first place. trust me,if you have any skill on a bike, then you will want to upgrade before long as well. and then you have to deal with the hassle of trying to sell an old bike. if you dont have any riding experience whatsoever. then it proly would be a good idea to go with something used and small for a first one.[/quote]

i dunno, i don't really even get the point of buying a liter bike, the 600SS bikes are pleanty fast, i mean **** the bike you have now can do 160mph and 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. there isnt a hell of a lot on the road that can keep up with that. besides its not like you lose a lot of money buy buying a starter bike and selling it after a season or two. they generaly depreciate to a certian point and then stay there. so you could prob sell it for about what you payed for it. i don't think theres anything wrong with geting an older sport bike like a Yamaha FZS600 or a standard like the kawaski ninja 500ex. the liter bike is just stupid as a first bike, its heavy, its way too fast, the throttle is too twitchy and the brakes are too senstive. and even if you did learn how to ride it decently without dumping it or killing yourself you'll still never be even half as good at riding as somone who started on a smaller bike. but hey thats just what i think, you guys do whatever you see fit <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:;)-->

btw this is what the FZS600 looks like, granted its a little dated but its still a nice bike

http://www.goddards65.freeserve.co.uk/pb-fazer.htm

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[99gsrdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FreakTimmah:

i dunno, i don't really even get the point of buying a liter bike, the 600SS bikes are pleanty fast, i mean **** the bike you have now can do 160mph and 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. there isnt a hell of a lot on the road that can keep up with that. besides its not like you lose a lot of money buy buying a starter bike and selling it after a season or two. they generaly depreciate to a certian point and then stay there. so you could prob sell it for about what you payed for it. i don't think theres anything wrong with geting an older sport bike like a Yamaha FZS600 or a standard like the kawaski ninja 500ex. the liter bike is just stupid as a first bike, its heavy, its way too fast, the throttle is too twitchy and the brakes are too senstive. and even if you did learn how to ride it decently without dumping it or killing yourself you'll still never be even half as good at riding as somone who started on a smaller bike. but hey thats just what i think, you guys do whatever you see fit <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:;)-->

btw this is what the FZS600 looks like, granted its a little dated but its still a nice bike

http://www.goddards65.freeserve.co.uk/pb-fazer.htm

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if u dont get the point of buying a liter bike, then you dont really ride. u just cruise. if you want to get hardcore u need somthing with more torque then a 600 can offer. i would have to agree, that a liter bike as a first woul not be a good idea. too much power for someone who doesnt know what they are doing. but about it bein heavy?? its like 4 pounds heavier than the 600.

but yeah, prety much everyone drops their first bike. so if u dont got alot of money, then a used one would be a better choice. plus then u wont raise my already ridiculous insurance rates.

[darkracer]

what about a suzuki or a ducati ? r thoes light and have alot of torque

[00CIVICTURBO]

Yeah but they are mad lute.Some of those bike are like 20 grand.

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[darkracer]

which is cheaper and has a like of torque i want a 600 to a 11000 cc

[FreakTimmah]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 99gsrdx:


if u dont get the point of buying a liter bike, then you dont really ride. u just cruise. if you want to get hardcore u need somthing with more torque then a 600 can offer. i would have to agree, that a liter bike as a first woul not be a good idea. too much power for someone who doesnt know what they are doing. but about it bein heavy?? its like 4 pounds heavier than the 600.

but yeah, prety much everyone drops their first bike. so if u dont got alot of money, then a used one would be a better choice. plus then u wont raise my already ridiculous insurance rates.[/quote]

actually i dont really ride, i just dream <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif" alt="Frown" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::(--> no money so all i really do is a lot of research. i guess im kind of a "magizine" racer when it comes to bikes(cars too for the most part) but i just dont have the money at this point in my life to buy what i really want, nor do i have the space to store or work on anything. but that doesnt stop me from learning as much i as can now and forming opinions. my whole thing about bikes in this country is that people just go out and get the biggest fastest thing they can, and if all you wanna do is go fast in a straight line thats fine, but it takes time to build up the skills you need to really be abel to ride one of those things at its limit, and you won't learn riding skills on a liter bike, those are for people who already know how to ride, not someone whos just starting out. it makes no sense buying a liter bike if you get owned by 600's on the track who know how to ride their bike and you don't. i just see it as a really bad buy for anyone who hasn't ridden before. and yeah the 600ss bikes arent as bad as the liter bikes, but its still not an ideal learning tool if you ask me, if you pull on the rear brake too hard going into a corner and lock it up you lowslide and **** up your bike, if you highslide thats even worse....its just too easy to **** up with one of those things, my friend gave me a ride on his CBR600RR and it was just plain scary(fun as hell but scary) how fast that thing was and how senstive the brakes were...yikes. its for those reasons why id say a used 600 standard is the best way to go, but hey im just offering my opinions, in the end its a personal choice, its your life do what you want with it.

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[FreakTimmah]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkracer:
which is cheaper and has a like of torque i want a 600 to a 11000 cc[/quote]

if you want a lot of tourque get a harley <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p-->

actually the SV650 and 1000 are nice tourquey sporty bikes.

as far as whats cheaper a suzki or a ducati? depends what you wanna ge, the only cheap ducatis are the monster 620, 750, and 1000, and the dual sport they sell. the 999 though will cost you a hefty 20grand, while a GSXR 1000 is more like 11-13k. the suzki GSXR 600, 750, and 1,000 are the top japense bikes out there right now. with yammah, honda, and kawaski following in that order. the yammah R6 and R1 suposedly handel better than the others, and ive herd there more comfortable.

you should def buy used, sport bikes lose like 30% of their value as soon as you drive them off the lot. and if your just starting out and are hell bent on geting a sport bike go for an older one, i bet you could get a good deal on an F4i or FZR600. start looking/saving now, take the MSF course, get some good gear and buy one. hell now isnt a bad time to shop <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:;)-->

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[99gsrdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FreakTimmah:

actually i dont really ride, i just dream <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif" alt="Frown" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::(--> no money so all i really do is a lot of research. i guess im kind of a "magizine" racer when it comes to bikes(cars too for the most part) but i just dont have the money at this point in my life to buy what i really want, nor do i have the space to store or work on anything. but that doesnt stop me from learning as much i as can now and forming opinions. my whole thing about bikes in this country is that people just go out and get the biggest fastest thing they can, and if all you wanna do is go fast in a straight line thats fine, but it takes time to build up the skills you need to really be abel to ride one of those things at its limit, and you won't learn riding skills on a liter bike, those are for people who already know how to ride, not someone whos just starting out. it makes no sense buying a liter bike if you get owned by 600's on the track who know how to ride their bike and you don't. i just see it as a really bad buy for anyone who hasn't ridden before. and yeah the 600ss bikes arent as bad as the liter bikes, but its still not an ideal learning tool if you ask me, if you pull on the rear brake too hard going into a corner and lock it up you lowslide and **** up your bike, if you highslide thats even worse....its just too easy to **** up with one of those things, my friend gave me a ride on his CBR600RR and it was just plain scary(fun as hell but scary) how fast that thing was and how senstive the brakes were...yikes. its for those reasons why id say a used 600 standard is the best way to go, but hey im just offering my opinions, in the end its a personal choice, its your life do what you want with it.

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i think its great that u try and educate yourself through reading etc. but i dont really think u should be giving riding advice if you have no real riding experience. doing it and reading about it, are 2 completely different things. yes it does take alot of skill to ride one of these bikes at their limit. but lets face it. about 99% of people who buy them will never do that. there is virtually nowhere u could go on the streets to do this. without losing your liscense. it does not take an extreme amount of skill to just ride the bike, and learn catwalks and what not. if you feel that finnicky behind the bars of one of these bikes. then riding is definately not for you. in your case. i would definately say get an ld bike if you ever buy one. but for most people with basic hand eye cordination, and decent reaction time. i would say get a rocket.

[99gsrdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FreakTimmah:

actually i dont really ride, i just dream <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif" alt="Frown" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::(--> no money so all i really do is a lot of research. i guess im kind of a "magizine" racer when it comes to bikes(cars too for the most part) but i just dont have the money at this point in my life to buy what i really want, nor do i have the space to store or work on anything. but that doesnt stop me from learning as much i as can now and forming opinions. my whole thing about bikes in this country is that people just go out and get the biggest fastest thing they can, and if all you wanna do is go fast in a straight line thats fine, but it takes time to build up the skills you need to really be abel to ride one of those things at its limit, and you won't learn riding skills on a liter bike, those are for people who already know how to ride, not someone whos just starting out. it makes no sense buying a liter bike if you get owned by 600's on the track who know how to ride their bike and you don't. i just see it as a really bad buy for anyone who hasn't ridden before. and yeah the 600ss bikes arent as bad as the liter bikes, but its still not an ideal learning tool if you ask me, if you pull on the rear brake too hard going into a corner and lock it up you lowslide and **** up your bike, if you highslide thats even worse....its just too easy to **** up with one of those things, my friend gave me a ride on his CBR600RR and it was just plain scary(fun as hell but scary) how fast that thing was and how senstive the brakes were...yikes. its for those reasons why id say a used 600 standard is the best way to go, but hey im just offering my opinions, in the end its a personal choice, its your life do what you want with it.

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i think its great that u try and educate yourself through reading etc. but i dont really think u should be giving riding advice if you have no real riding experience. doing it and reading about it, are 2 completely different things. yes it does take alot of skill to ride one of these bikes at their limit. but lets face it. about 99% of people who buy them will never do that. there is virtually nowhere u could go on the streets to do this. without losing your liscense. it does not take an extreme amount of skill to just ride the bike, and learn catwalks and what not. if you feel that finnicky behind the bars of one of these bikes. then riding is definately not for you. in your case. i would definately say get an old bike if you ever buy one. but for most people with basic hand eye cordination, and decent reaction time. i would say get a rocket.

[FreakTimmah]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 99gsrdx:


i think its great that u try and educate yourself through reading etc. but i dont really think u should be giving riding advice if you have no real riding experience. doing it and reading about it, are 2 completely different things. yes it does take alot of skill to ride one of these bikes at their limit. but lets face it. about 99% of people who buy them will never do that. there is virtually nowhere u could go on the streets to do this. without losing your liscense. it does not take an extreme amount of skill to just ride the bike, and learn catwalks and what not. if you feel that finnicky behind the bars of one of these bikes. then riding is definately not for you. in your case. i would definately say get an old bike if you ever buy one. but for most people with basic hand eye cordination, and decent reaction time. i would say get a rocket.[/quote]

yeah good point, and its not really that those bikes scare me, i mean id def like one, its just that id rather take the time on a starter bike to master the basics, i want to be good at riding, not just ok. i want to build some serious confindence, learn how to take a fast curve ect. i've also never been much of a speed freak, i like going fast but my limit thease days is about 80 on public roads. i just dont want to get somthing thats going to tempt me into tripple digit speeds, not right away anyways <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p--> so for those reasons + insurance id just rather have a standard as a first bike. but thats my choice and its for my reaons, i shouldnt try to give advice about somthing i havent done yet. my bad <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p-->


so are you geting a liter bike this spring?

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[darkracer]

hey i found me a green 2003 kawasaki Ninja 250 for 3,000 dollars should i get it ?

[FreakTimmah]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkracer:
hey i found me a green 2003 kawasaki Ninja 250 for 3,000 dollars should i get it ?[/quote]

no, esp not if its used. those things are 3k brand new. you can pick one up on the used market for several hundfred dollars cheaper. its supposed to be a really Great beginer bike, and handels well because its so light. but the seat high is kinda (which may or may not be a good thing) and its preaty slow by bike standards, still faster than most cars on the road, its a good bike but personaly id rather have somthing with just a bit more power. up to you though. go check out those links

http://home.earthlink.net/~thebradfords/startsmall.htm

http://www.beginnerbikes.com/

http://forums.cycleworld.com/wh07masai/ubb.x

it'll get you started anyways.

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[99gsrdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FreakTimmah:

yeah good point, and its not really that those bikes scare me, i mean id def like one, its just that id rather take the time on a starter bike to master the basics, i want to be good at riding, not just ok. i want to build some serious confindence, learn how to take a fast curve ect. i've also never been much of a speed freak, i like going fast but my limit thease days is about 80 on public roads. i just dont want to get somthing thats going to tempt me into tripple digit speeds, not right away anyways <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p--> so for those reasons + insurance id just rather have a standard as a first bike. but thats my choice and its for my reaons, i shouldnt try to give advice about somthing i havent done yet. my bad <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p-->


so are you geting a liter bike this spring?

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if u really need to learn the basics. then get a dirt bike. the basic skills for riding a bike, can be learned prety much on any bike. with a dirt bike, u dont need to worry about droppin it. if u do, u just pick it up and keep goin. once youve got the skills down good on that. then get a street bike. and u should have no problems.

[darkracer]

my mom says no motorcycle untill i move out of her house should i get one to piss her off lol