H22 swap...

[19civic99]

well now im thinking of doing the H22 swap into my civic coupe...what do i need...what do i need to do..what sorts of custom work do i have to do...cost list would be nice also...
DETAILS TOO PLEASE!!

thanks!


p.s- rich i know you know the answer.... ;)

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1999 Civic DX Coupe

some mods... :)
JDM B18C1..hopefully soon....
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[Checkmate]

Well my brother was thinking about an h22, its really not worth it, you got to get new axles, mount kits, breaks, no a/c , no power steering , your car will sit 3 inches lower , and a bunch of other stuff i forget. If i where you id get a b18c5 (200hp). I use to like the h22 but the b18c5 is smaller,Basically Bolts right in, high horse power, and a much much much higher redline than the h22. Then again you could always get a JDM b16a sir2(170hp) about 5 times cheaper if your low on cash.



http://www.hondamotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=B16A%20Sir%202%20Long%20Block



I still like the b18c5 Thow.

[19civic99]

screw the B18C5 because its high compression, and id be too scared to boost it! hhehe

well what kind of custom work will i have to do??anyone???

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1999 Civic DX Coupe

some mods... :)
JDM B18C1..hopefully soon....
http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/canada.gif

http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/confused.gif Crazy drifting video http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/confused.gif
http://members.aol.com/firemanbones/private/drift.gif

[Checkmate]

i thought you where getting a b18c1???

[19civic99]

i am..but i was just thinking about the H22...and the problems i would run into with that swap

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1999 Civic DX Coupe

some mods... :)
JDM B18C1..hopefully soon....
http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/canada.gif

http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/confused.gif Crazy drifting video http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/confused.gif
http://members.aol.com/firemanbones/private/drift.gif

[Paradox]

alot of em

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91 Nissan 240sx fastback
Apexi N1 single exhaust
OBX short shifter
Apexi rev/speed meter
Diamond cut Hyper white head lights
Amber tails painted Candy-Apple red

[19civic99]

:mad: LIKE WHAT!!!!!!!!???

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1999 Civic DX Coupe

some mods... :)
JDM B18C1..hopefully soon....
http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/canada.gif

http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/confused.gif Crazy drifting video http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/confused.gif
http://members.aol.com/firemanbones/private/drift.gif

[accordy2g]

to put the swap in you would need a motor mount kit and convert the wiring. As for problems everyone complain about breaking axles. As for retaining A/C there is a company that makes mounts so you can retain A/C. I would do it, so what it weighs a bit more than a b18c but..
1: its uncommon to see ;)
2: put boost and that thing will fly.

[candymanjl]

now that it's not a new swap, there's not really a lot of problems with the swap. the only thing I here about now is axles breaking. but that's only with guys who want to slam their cars low, keep the ride height up a little so the axles are straighter and you'll be fine.


I'd say get the H22A, it's cheaper than the B16A swap from www.hondamotorsonline.com (http://www.hondamotorsonline.com) but you gotta get the mounts and different axles.

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[trickeng]

all kits BUT place racing use 90-93 accord 1/2 shaft and 90-93 integra axles. SO, i don't know why everyone is making a big deal over the axles. you have to replace the axles in a Bseries swap also. does that mean he should stick with the Dseries so he doesn't have to go through the MAJOR WORK involved with replacing axles.

i ran on stock strength axles for 2 years without breaking them. racing weekly and putting down 300+HP for the second year.
you also have the option of buying driveshaftshop axles.
the big thing is making sure they are parallel with the ground.

you can retain both A/C and P/S with ANY of the kits. the p/s is straight foward. use 97+H22 pump and high pressure line.
the a/c requires modifying the condenser lines. use the H22 compressor and the rest civic.

the easiest way to wire is to use the civic harness, get a obd2 to obd1 jumper harness and modify the eng portion of the harness to fit the H22.

and don't listen to people like checkmate. because they don't have a clue about H22 swaps. just trash talkers who have probably never even seen one.
", you got to get new axles, mount kits, breaks, no a/c , no power steering , your car will sit 3 inches lower , and a bunch of other stuff"!!! that stuff makes me laugh. HAAAAHAAAAA!!!

at least he was correct about a mount kit!!!!

EK-H22 Turbo
11.8 @ 119mph
Daily Driven
Stock Internals

[Joad]

somebody just got owned by a newbie!

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1991 B16a1 Euro CRX SiR
Future all motor screamer

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[BSeRiEsHaTcH69]

just buy a set of high performance/stronger axles. do a search on google for some places that make them. h22a will produce more understeer then your current motor. but drop when you drop your car center of gravity is lower so it really shouldnt be a major problem with some practice.
Joe

93 Si with B16a Turbo
COMING SOON
RICE PATROL OFFICER 0001

[JDM89 EF-8]

I GOT THE BOMB DEALS ON 2ND GEN B16S, 170 HP. HYDRO TRANNY. IF YOU WANT CABLE TRANNY, I CAN GET 200 OF THE FINAL PRICE,SO 2100 FOR THE CABLE B16A TRANNY WITH 170 HP 2ND GEN MOTOR, OR STICK WITH THE HYDRO TRANNY, EITHER WAY, PEOPLE ARE BUYING... DONT MISS OUT. IM THE ONLY STOCKING DEALER RIGHT NOW. EVEN TIM IS LOOKING TO BUY FROM ME, SO THINK ABOUT IT.

[CivicBeater]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vtec hotrod:
I GOT THE BOMB DEALS ON 2ND GEN B16S, 170 HP. HYDRO TRANNY. IF YOU WANT CABLE TRANNY, I CAN GET 200 OF THE FINAL PRICE,SO 2100 FOR THE CABLE B16A TRANNY WITH 170 HP 2ND GEN MOTOR, OR STICK WITH THE HYDRO TRANNY, EITHER WAY, PEOPLE ARE BUYING... DONT MISS OUT. IM THE ONLY STOCKING DEALER RIGHT NOW. EVEN TIM IS LOOKING TO BUY FROM ME, SO THINK ABOUT IT.[/quote]

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[The Grimace]

check out www.hondaswap.com (http://www.hondaswap.com) they have TONS of articles and walkthroughs for swaps and the message board guys are really knowledgable. I think you could find out everything you need to know from them.

To my knowledge... nothing can stop The Grimace

[accordy2g]

i got a question about the h22. Some people tell me its 190 some tell me 195hp and other say 200hp, which one is it?

[trickeng]

all of the above, depending on year and model.
you can also add 205HP and 220HP to that list for certain JDM H22's

other than the type-s. they all put down around the same HP. the jdm will put down a couple more hp due to 10.6:1 cr vs the usdm 10.0:1.

EK-H22 Turbo
11.8 @ 119mph
Daily Driven
Stock Internals
TrickEngineering.com

[candymanjl]

yeah, people always quote the JDM ones higher, I think mostly it's people just trying to sell them. the compression varies a little, but the type s has different cams, maybe some different ecu tuning, and I think closer to 11:1 compression ratio. other than that motor, they're all really around 195-200 hp.

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[candymanjl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CivicBeater:
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dang boy, you love playing out the picts huh? <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p--> <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p--> <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::p-->

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[CivicBeater]

LOL, that was the first time i posted a pic in Months! So i dont want to hear your mess!! <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:;)--> <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::D-->

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[candymanjl]

yeah you're right, but when you first got access to those, every post had one <img src="http://www.clubhonda.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin::D-->

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[trickeng]

USDM H22's have 10.0:1 CR
JDM H22's have 10.6:1 CR
JDM Type-S H22's have 11.0:1 CR

so it is a fact that the JDM motors have more power.

EK-H22 Turbo
11.8 @ 119mph
Daily Driven
Stock Internals
TrickEngineering.com

[LdeHatchH22a]

Well, i have a h22a in a EG, and not only do i smoke EGs with b18 swaps, but there arent many problems. Mount kit, Injector resistor, new radiator and fan, Axles (the better you get the longer they last. You need to get a wiring harness cut, and spliced to your stock one, so you have dash lights and stuff. About hte USDM and the JDM motors...the JDM is better. The cr is .6 higher and that makes it 5-10 hp more then a usdm motor...
Thats funny that everyone says its a bad swap, when i have a stock motor, and i can bat all t he other swaps, no only in a straight line, but if you know how to drive, and you have suspension work done, the understeer problem is non exsistant. Well, i hope i cleared up some stuff for you..

92 Civic hatchback....$3000
h22a motorswap........$3600
Minor bolt ons........$1000
Devistating a $40,000 corvette.....priceless

[cadmando18]

Well, if you are only going to post a pic a month, that was a good one!!! I'm going to have to use that on some emails I get:-)

CRX with JDM B16A
Runs low 14s with streat tires
Check out my site for mod list
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