SOT positive displacement charger install

[Camuman]

this will show my progress through the install and tune. this is the stage one tuning positive displacement supercharger setup exclusively distributed by static X motorsports. robert i beleive owns the joint, and mark works with them. to date my experiences with them has been stellar. so helpful, so informative, and very patient with all my questsions. i highly reccomend them based on my experiences to date: ok on to the stuff.



first, i wanted to show everyone the few parts that came in so far!

rc 650 injectors

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/s2k%20supercharger/IMG_0354.jpg



aeromotive fpr

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/s2k%20supercharger/IMG_0352.jpg


walbro pump 255ghp model 342

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/s2k%20supercharger/IMG_0353.jpg



this is gonna be fun!

[Almighty-Si]

Ah Yea Here We Go ! :D

[candymanjl]

finally the S is getting boosted!

[Almighty-Si]

I'm amped ! I can't wait to see the progress and finished product. It's gonna be sick !

[CivicBeater]

damn 650's eh?

[candymanjl]

damn 650's eh?
the stockers are like 300's so the 650's should give plenty of room for more power :D

[Camuman]

damn 650's eh?

real men leave room for improvement ;) ok actually 550's are at 80% with 330-350rwhp. since i should be somewhere around there, figured get 650s, and if i wanna up the boost theres room.

[Almighty-Si]

Did you order the upgraded pulley yet? :D

What did you pay for the 650's? I was thinking about getting those but I got a good deal on the 750's, but now I am wodering if it was just a mistake cause the 750's were actually cheaper than the 650's.

[CivicBeater]

real men leave room for improvement ;) ok actually 550's are at 80% with 330-350rwhp. since i should be somewhere around there, figured get 650s, and if i wanna up the boost theres room.

real men don't get too big a condom for their cock if you know what i mean ;)

[Almighty-Si]

real men don't get too big a condom for their cock if you know what i mean ;)
C'mon you know Ant better than that....before you know it, he will have to upgrade those injectors ;)

[Camuman]

Did you order the upgraded pulley yet? :D

What did you pay for the 650's? I was thinking about getting those but I got a good deal on the 750's, but now I am wodering if it was just a mistake cause the 750's were actually cheaper than the 650's.

paid 340 shipped for the 650 rc's. 750's mean you can make mo powa if you want! just kinda annoying to tune idle and part throttle.

[Camuman]

real men don't get too big a condom for their cock if you know what i mean ;)

now thats a low blow. they dont make a condom big enough for me ;)

[Almighty-Si]

paid 340 shipped for the 650 rc's. 750's mean you can make mo powa if you want! just kinda annoying to tune idle and part throttle.

Yea see, I got the 750's for $325 shipped. A lot of the places I saw had the 650's costing more than the 750's, wonder why that is....hhhmmm, now I have to compare them.

Tuning idle and part throttle shouldn't be a problem with good software. There are guys running 1000cc's with "like stock" idles so, we shouldn't have any problems with 6 and 750's.

[candymanjl]

with that much fuel on the larger injectors getting a steady idle takes a while unless you just cheat and raise the idle or don't care what AF ratio it's at.

[Almighty-Si]

Well we'll see soon enough, think I am putting the injectors in on Saturday.

[candymanjl]

Well we'll see soon enough, think I am putting the injectors in on Saturday.
it's funny, with 8 bit resolution on the fuel right now if I go rich one step at idle I'll go from 14.7:1 to 13.0:1, go lean one step and I'll go from 14.7:1 to 15.5:1. and it'll vary as the car heats up, if the a/c is on or off, voltage, etc. idle exposes so many issues and usually you'll get multiple things effecting voltage at the same time. I've spent the same or more time tuning idle as anything else. part of that is I've got an older car and I think I need to replace my IAC valve, but still, lots of variables. that's why the AEM has a couple of pages of settings to help tweak idle.

[Almighty-Si]

Adjusting for variations in voltage is easy, just have to adjust the battery offset tables and just turn stuff on and adjust the cels at the voltage. I got my voltage down to 11 turning everything on...LoL...rear defogger, heat, lights. Temp is ECT/IAT compensation, but it's a little harder since you have to wait until the car completely cools so you can see the effects of your adjustments and make new ones. I have auto update so, when I make an adjustment on a cell it uploads when I make it, so I can make 2-3 adjustments before it jumps to the next cell. It's a bit of a pain but with my 450's I actually got it done pretty easily, took 2 tries to get everything right.

[CivicBeater]

now thats a low blow. they dont make a condom big enough for me ;)

ohh kiss my ass low-blow! LMAO!

I just hate every day coming to this thread and seeing my defeat! :goofylaug

[Almighty-Si]

I just hate every day coming to this thread and seeing my defeat! :goofylaug

Don't worry Eric you may just have a chance against Mike and his all motor D series build :P

[CivicBeater]

Don't worry Eric you may just have a chance against Mike and his all motor D series build :P

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :greencry:

[DOHCIVIC]

the stockers are like 300's so the 650's should give plenty of room for more power :D
I'm running 750's

[DOHCIVIC]

Yea see, I got the 750's for $325 shipped. A lot of the places I saw had the 650's costing more than the 750's, wonder why that is....hhhmmm, now I have to compare them.

The site I ordered my 750's from were the same price as the 650's and 550's

[DOHCIVIC]

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :greencry:
When I get my car back on the road I'll run you at half throttle

[Camuman]

good news, after 26 rage against the machine songs, the F'N walbro pump is in. i have learned a few things doing a pump swap on a s2k.

1. i dont thikn i will ever do this for a friend :(
2. that was the most awkward position i have ever been in.
3. i used my chin as a brace when leaning in from behind the car
4. did i mention that was awkward?
5. over all the time involved is only about 1.5 to 2 hours, but the most annoying time evar!

thankfully, the bad boy works. post impressions, well its a pump, and its pumping, so i am happy :) it makes a bit of a whine, but every walbro i have ever had did, so whatever.

next up is the injectors, fpr, and hondata intake mani gasket :)


pretty soon i will be recieving the intercooler setup. well the heat exchanger, fan, pump, and core. i am very looking forward to this :)

[CivicBeater]

ohhh bad-ass!

[Almighty-Si]

Good stuff ! I hate when you think something shouldn't be too bad and then takes forever to get done. Atleast it is in ! Can't wait to see it complete, hope you are taking photo's along the way.

[candymanjl]

ha ha, we knew from the s2000 forums it would suck, it was funny to see guys post picts of how they had to position themselves in the car to get to the pump :D

yo ant, let do the FPR, injectors, and gasket on sunday :cool:

[Camuman]

ha ha, we knew from the s2000 forums it would suck, it was funny to see guys post picts of how they had to position themselves in the car to get to the pump :D

yo ant, let do the FPR, injectors, and gasket on sunday :cool:

sounds good :)

[Camuman]

another update, just decided today to do the clutch. gonna go with ap1 flywheel and clutchmasters stage 3 disc and pressure plate. should order this week, and have installed in a few weeks. work has been brutal and busy. just havent had time to mess with the car. but over the weekend was dreiving spiritedly and clutch slip with each quick shift. its only gonna get worse and then i will have to uninstall more stuff to swap the clutch. so smart money is on doing it now. glad i have the honda bible, so the clutch install shouldnt be too bad. might pick up a cheap tranny jack to make it easier. heck, a reason to buy more tools :)

[candymanjl]

dew it! gotta put that charger power to the ground!

[Almighty-Si]

Hell while you got the tranny down why not pick up an LSD?

Yea so what i'm a trouble maker :D

[candymanjl]

ha ha, he's not gonna play with the rear end till he breaks it :D

[Camuman]

pretty sure stock s2k has lsd :) but yeah, gonna ride the stocker to the ground.

update: pulled the intake mani last night. its a REAL PITA to get to teh lower bolts. i invented a few new curse words getting to them. on friday gonna reassemble.

[candymanjl]

actually yeah, S2000's come with LSD's, that was a big deal when they first came out. we took the rental one we had, rev'd to 9000 rpm, dump the clutch and the car just goes straight :)

[CivicBeater]

actually yeah, S2000's come with LSD's, that was a big deal when they first came out. we took the rental one we had, rev'd to 9000 rpm, dump the clutch and the car just goes straight :)

reason 39857348957487 not to buy a rental car. LOL

[Camuman]

reason 39857348957487 not to buy a rental car. LOL

i remember when he told me about this. i was on a vw board at the time, and we were talking about s2k launching. i told them my buddy had driven an ap1 and the best launch on the street was rev to 9k and sidestep the clutch. they laughed and said i could never drive any of theres if they got one. ROFL. with the ap2. slipping the clutch at 5-6k works really well. any more and you ruin the clutch. side step it to many times and you destroy the diff. :(

[candymanjl]

lol, it had 80 miles when we got a hold of it :D we did about 10 rev limiter launches on it that night :D

[Almighty-Si]

lol, it had 80 miles when we got a hold of it :D we did about 10 rev limiter launches on it that night :D
Poor car :(

[candymanjl]

lol, we were driving it like we stole it, except we rented it :D

[CivicBeater]

lol, it had 80 miles when we got a hold of it :D we did about 10 rev limiter launches on it that night :D

HAHAHAHAHA talk about breaking it in!

[candymanjl]

yeah, we abused that poor car, oh well :)

back on topic for a sec, WHERE'S THE DAMN CHARGER ALREADY!!! :D I'm starting to think Ant didn't even order it :D

[Almighty-Si]

WHERE'S THE DAMN CHARGER ALREADY!!! :D I'm starting to think Ant didn't even order it :D

WERD ! uuuummmmmm :stick: Ant?

[Camuman]

WERD ! uuuummmmmm :stick: Ant?



rofl. the blower is backordered from magnuson :( should be soon.

that gasket is a bitch pita mutha f'r. but its in. ran into snag. my injectors were missing the 2 orings per injector for the bottom part that meets the intake mani. gona speak to the vendor monday and get them. in the mean time, car is just sittin :(

[candymanjl]

the intake manifold is mad ghey!

[Camuman]

the intake manifold is mad ghey!

ohyeah. injectors are in!!!! gotta wire them then tune time!

[candymanjl]

true, it's not too bad to wire them up.

[Almighty-Si]

I'm boycotting this thread until I finally see something that will make the S see positive pressure !

[candymanjl]

ha ha, I still don't think Ant actually ordered the kit, WHERE'S THE PROOF! :D

[Camuman]

just finished wiring up the injectors. fired up and got the idle decent. whoop whoop!!!! its funny how sensitive the adjustments are at idle. i was adding fuel 1% at a time. so first i add 1%. then i add 1 more. looking good. sitting right at 15.5:1. hmm, wonder what will happen if i add 5% all at once. bam, flooded nearly stalls ROFL. got it right around 15:1. idle, just trying to get it to sit rock solid.

next is to street tune the part throttle :)

project is coming along :)

clutch is ordered and on the way.

[Paradox]

i think you should ditch the whole project you've got going on and just throw a 2jz in it :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneWm_7xBTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YxuOCbY21A

http://www.fiftyfiftyracing.com/DSC00728.JPG




ok so maybe its an unrealistic 16k engine swap....but its still bitchin

[candymanjl]

ha ha, that's awesome, pricey, but awesome :D there was a guy supposedly doing those swaps and really did one or two but then ripped off a lot of people who have yet to get the swap :(

[Camuman]

rich and i drove around and he tuned part and wot throttle na for now. car feels great. idles nice. rich dialed it in perfect :) clutch should arrive soon, then car is coming apart again for install.

whoop whoop.

[candymanjl]

yeah the NA A/F ratios are pretty good right now, now we just have to worry about boost :cool:

[Camuman]

clutch just arrived. cluchmasters stage 3

i sent the ap1 flywheel off to be resurfaced.

heres some pics of the clutch

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/clutch/IMG_0400.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/clutch/IMG_0401.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/clutch/IMG_0402.jpg

the break in procedure paper is hilarious. drive 500 miles stop and go, no quick shifts, no compression braking, to allow proper seating, then full abuse can be initiated!!!!!! ROFL!!!!!

[CivicBeater]

LOL that's hilarious

[Almighty-Si]

I'm boycotting this thread until I finally see something that will make the S see positive pressure !

:badthumb:

[Camuman]

quick update, you will see the S on 6# to start. then i will up boost to 8#. i am getting both pullies! whoop whoop!

also got the S aligned finnaly. toe out in the front sucks ass for regular driving.

[candymanjl]

ooooh purdy :D get the charger already dammit!

[Camuman]

bizump for new info. blower is on the way as of 11-5-08 :) whoop whoop. pretty soon rich and i are gonna install clutch. just been super busy :)

[Almighty-Si]

AWWWW shit...look out !

(oops i'm not supposed to be posting in this thread)

:D

[candymanjl]

gonna have to spray a bigger shot in the crx once the S is supercharged :D

[Camuman]

gonna have to spray a bigger shot in the crx once the S is supercharged :D

i hope, that much is for sure! after driving your whip, i wanna be at least as quick as that!

[Camuman]

kit arrived today. i am halway thru clutch install. the only pita so far is the upper starter bolt. holy cow its hiding!

heres some pics of what arrived. three big boxes came. one had the blower in it. the other two had such attention to detail. each system for the kit is in its own box. properly labeled, and easily cross referenced in teh manual. i have read horror stories of other FI kits coming in one giant box, with no inventory list whatsoever. these boys get a huge A+ from me :)

mine is the youtune kit with 6# and 8# crank pullies.

on to the pics

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0432.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0433.jpg


http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0435.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0436.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0437.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0438.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0439.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0440.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0441.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0442.jpg

more to come. hopefully this weekend be done with clutch and begin blower :)

[CivicBeater]

all I got to say is it better work

[Camuman]

dont worry, we will run again in april ;)

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr , shift brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrr, shift brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrr.............

in case your wondering, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is the sound of the charger whine as i rape face :)

[Almighty-Si]

The boycott is over !!!!

Hell yea that thing is sweet ! :rockon:

[CivicBeater]

dont worry, we will run again in april ;)

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr , shift brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrr, shift brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrr.............

in case your wondering, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is the sound of the charger whine as i rape face :)

Muahahaahhahahahaha My blue is faster!

[Almighty-Si]

Muahahaahhahahahaha My blue is faster!

Uh oh here we go again :D

[candymanjl]

eric is gonna get worked hardcore once this kit is on :D

and uh, ant, what's this supposed to be? :crosseye::crosseye:

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0434.jpg

[Camuman]

looks like a giant red X. ;)

[candymanjl]

looks like a giant red X. ;)
ha ha, you edited that junk :D

[Camuman]

all tranny bolts are loose. should have it off and back on by friday :)

[candymanjl]

word, I'm curious to see how that clutch feels, I'm guessing pretty close to stock just with an ass load more grip :D

[Camuman]

just got done bolting new flywheel/clutch in and tranny bolted back on motor, just gotta finish reinstall. :) hoping for dyno time within two weeks :)

[candymanjl]

got some pictures of the progess...

the Hover S :D
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7437.JPG

the soon to not be so slow ride :)
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7439.JPG

the motor sitting all low so we could get the tranny off and on...
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7440.JPG

the new clutch that doesn't suck
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7441.JPG

anthony trying to figure out how to use the socket :D
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7442.JPG

the tranny is HUGE compared to a B-series :)
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7443.JPG

http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7444.JPG

http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7445.JPG

new clutch and lighter AP1 flywheel installed, ready to go...
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7446.JPG

old clutch and old flywheel...
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7447.JPG

tranny back on, enough work for now :)
http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/cars/clutch/IMG_7450.JPG

[Camuman]

wrapped the header :)

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0449.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0450.jpg

[candymanjl]

the header is all purdy :D hopefully we can get it back onto the motor without fubaring the wrap :(

[mugenrios2k]

all I got to say is it better work


Hay everybody this is Mark (Mugenrios2k) on a number of other S2000/Honda forums.

I am one of the original Beta program guys for SOT; and I am the lead developer for the EM solutions/base maps for the SOT Roots supercharger kit.


Just wanted to say hi and let you know it does in fact work….

Here is a video of me beating the crap out of the kit and Greddy E-manage ULT base tune at TPGR. I will be starting on a Hondata base map when I get back to Huntsville from TDY in Early Dec.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ccBg4p6VY


To keep this thread on the install that Camuman is documenting;
If there are any questions I would suggests some one start a new thread and point me to that thread; I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
I don’t frequent clubhonda much, so if you cant get a hold of me here after a couple of days you can find me on s2ki or on s2kca.

[CivicBeater]

Hay everybody this is Mark (Mugenrios2k) on a number of other S2000/Honda forums.

I am one of the original Beta program guys for SOT; and I am the lead developer for the EM solutions/base maps for the SOT Roots supercharger kit.


Just wanted to say hi and let you know it does in fact work….

Here is a video of me beating the crap out of the kit and Greddy E-manage ULT base tune at TPGR. I will be starting on a Hondata base map when I get back to Huntsville from TDY in Early Dec.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ccBg4p6VY


To keep this thread on the install that Camuman is documenting;
If there are any questions I would suggests some one start a new thread and point me to that thread; I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
I don’t frequent clubhonda much, so if you cant get a hold of me here after a couple of days you can find me on s2ki or on s2kca.

welcome...what state is huntsville in?

[candymanjl]

welcome...what state is huntsville in?
alabama dummy :p

the drivetrain is back together now from the clutch install, just gotta wrap up a few more things and we'll start the charger install :cool:

[Almighty-Si]

Well there is also huntsville indiana and I believe North Dakota as well...and probably more than that...LoL

What header is that he is using?

[candymanjl]

he's using the Berk header :)

the car is back on all fours and running good, good enough to beat a 1.8T :) just checking everything all-motor before starting the charger install, probably start the install for a little tomorrow then finish sunday :cool:

[Camuman]

clutch is installed and car feels great!!!!! cm stage 3 is awesome so far. only have 3o miles on it so far but its been great. also did the ap1 flywheel. gona try and put a decent amount of miles tomorow before i put the car back in the garage for the blower install. i have a feeling i might be blown by next weekend.



hey mark!!! glad to see you here. blower install starts tomorrow :)

mark has given top notch service to me, i look forward to meeting you in the future :)

[Almighty-Si]

Glad to see things coming along. You wanna break in the clutch a little sooner take it out to the busy part of town a drive it around. I usually take a ride into Manhattan after a clutch install. With all the traffic there it goes through so many heat cycles it's usually good after about 100 miles...LoL...did it like that 3 times and worked out for me great.

Forget putting miles on it, just get out there and get crackin on that install ! You know this is the most anxious I have been to hear a bitch whine :D

[candymanjl]

You know this is the most anxious I have been to hear a bitch whine :D

ha ha ha, quote of the build! :D

we'll probably start on it a little today then finish up tomorrow, then this bitch will whine :D shoot, maybe monday we'll get it dyno tuned :eek: :D

[Camuman]

omg, were so close to finishing.

[Almighty-Si]

omg, were so close to finishing.

Effin' SWEET ! Where's the pics? :wack:

:D

[Camuman]

quick teaser pics of things being test fitted.

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/s2k%20supercharger/IMG_7555.JPG

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/s2k%20supercharger/IMG_7556.JPG

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/s2k%20supercharger/IMG_7563.JPG

[candymanjl]

yeah, things were hauling ass on the install until we were reminded that this is only the 10th prototype kit and we're Beta users :D actually it's not a bad install at all, they did a good job on the kit considering how much has to be custom. we just ran into a couple of things that kept us from finishing last night, they should be overnighting us the couple of parts we need to get it finished up tomorrow :cool:

today we'll mount the battery, wire the heat exchanger fan and IC water pump, and run the intercooler hoses. then when the parts come in tomorrow we'll be ready to rock after about 5 minutes :D

[candymanjl]

hey Ant, you forgot the best shot :D just look at that AWESOME intake :D ha ha, man the car felt like doodie with that intake on it :D

http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/camumans2000/IMG_7551.JPG

[candymanjl]

oh yeah, taking the bumper off of an S is scary! :madeek:

http://www.superpimps.com/candymanjl/canon20d/camumans2000/IMG_7553.JPG

[Camuman]

the best instructions i found were grab with both hands and pray you removed all the bolts and tabs!!!!!

[Almighty-Si]

That intake is mad JdM y0 !

The setup is interesting, thought it was more like Rich's setup. Its cool the way they mounted it but right over the header? Also the intake worries me a bit, being so close to the header on the highway at speed its going to be sucking in some serious hot air, kindda like mine. I think its part of the reason for my overheating on my last trip. I wish I would have datalogged sometime while we were on the highway to get a reading on the IAT's but my filter sitting right next to the header when it was running 1350 degrees couldn't have been good for IAT's or cooling.

Does that pipe shrink as it passes through the cooler?
What's cool though is you could still change your intake manifold and TB if you want to. Can't wait to see this thing !

[Camuman]

count down till ignition......................

[CivicBeater]

Interesting, but you better be throwing some boost at it...Gary's got something for it! haha

Actually, this is pretty sweet! I'm glad to see progress. It's been wait wait wait install 5 minutes wait wait wait now all of a sudden BAM NIGGA got it almost installed completely!

[mugenrios2k]

Also the intake worries me a bit, being so close to the header on the highway at speed its going to be sucking in some serious hot air,



While yes it is sucking in a bit of hot air back there and some efficiency could be gained by relocating the filter to a different place the gains are negligible.

I have looked at multiple ways to move the filter forwarded so it would get air from behind the passengers head light. There is just no room to route the filter forward with out going under the blower and routing the intake very close to the header.


The critical thing regardless of where the intake is placed in this setup, is proper intercooling.


Once the Eaton TVS becomes readily available there may be a version 2 of this kit with a jack shaft setup and the intake on the front. But that would not happen for years down the road. The TVS units are smaller in foot print allowing some different setup possibilities.


Right now you got to buy a huge number of TVS units to even get a good price on them.

[CivicBeater]

I give you props for sending nice clamps!

[Almighty-Si]

While yes it is sucking in a bit of hot air back there and some efficiency could be gained by relocating the filter to a different place the gains are negligible.

I have looked at multiple ways to move the filter forwarded so it would get air from behind the passengers head light. There is just no room to route the filter forward with out going under the blower and routing the intake very close to the header.


The critical thing regardless of where the intake is placed in this setup, is proper intercooling.

I can see how trying to get the filter away from where it is, is a challenge, there aren't many options there but you have to wonder if on the highway at a sustained 75-80mph what the EGT's are going to be like and what the IAT's will look like while at speed. Proper intercooling is great but if you are ingesting 1300 degree air, even passing through a very efficient intercooler still has to leave high IAT temps. Have you ever logged EGT and IAT on the highway at an 75mph stretch of a half hour or so?

Again I could be wrong and it's probably something I experienced last year with my filter location as well, which makes me wish I had logged some on my trip to see what was going on.

[mugenrios2k]

Yes I have logged IAT while Road Racing Steady State (after 20 mins of constant hammering on the car.) temps averaged 15 and never went over 17deg F above ambient.

that’s ambient not the IAT at the filter

And EGTs never went above 820C
For Reference I was seeing EGT in the 850C range before going FI.
And IATs about 20 to 25F above ambient.

.

[Camuman]

battery is pretty much where you see it, but mounted in a sweet battery tray that my buddy fabbed up.


car runs, it moves. did some monitoring to make sure car was running rich, timing is retarded 1 degree per pound of boost, so everything is safe. did a 3rd gear pull from 30-80. omg feels awesome. heading to dyno shortly to get some numbers :)

so tired. rich did a bad ass job doing most rofl of the install. car in the few minutes i drove it is awesome!

ok time to sleep.

[candymanjl]

Got the car at 11.0:1 in boost right now, that's where my charger is happy. Plus the timing is pretty conservative, now ant can get some milage on it safely before the dyno on Monday :cool: the 3rd gear run did feel good and it sounded pretty sick :) we'll get some videos on the dyno and highway when it's done. Plus since my car is still bone stock it'll be fun to run the two cars and show the difference :)

[CivicBeater]

wow..sweet. Sounds like ant is tired as balls.LOL oh wait that's probably because he was posting past 9pm!

Get plenty of video!

[Almighty-Si]

wow..sweet. Sounds like ant is tired as balls.LOL oh wait that's probably because he was posting past 9pm!

LoL !

I wanna SEEEEE !

[candymanjl]

the car needs a little bath, then we'll get some shots of the whole car and the install and some video :)

[mugenrios2k]

11.0:1 is a good starting point until you get on the dyno.


What supercharger setup did you have that was happy at 11.0:1
Intercooled, MP??, at what boost level, and max Supercharger RPM.

I am guessing it was a JR supercharger on a SI which mean that yes 11.0:1 was warented to keep IAT/EGTs in check.


Max safe power on the SOT should be around 11.8 to 12.1 since IATs are so close to ambient. Most of the Miata guys I know run in the 12.5-12.7 AF with the MP62 with A2A and 12psi.

[mugenrios2k]

did you guys get the clutch broken in.

[Camuman]

not yet, i have 50 miles on it so far. :( gonna do a decent city drive tonight :) hopefully get upto 150-200 on it.

quick findings, at 2000rpm i see 4# boost :) around town driving just got that much easier.

[candymanjl]

11.0:1 is a good starting point until you get on the dyno.

What supercharger setup did you have that was happy at 11.0:1
Intercooled, MP??, at what boost level, and max Supercharger RPM.

I am guessing it was a JR supercharger on a SI which mean that yes 11.0:1 was warented to keep IAT/EGTs in check.

Max safe power on the SOT should be around 11.8 to 12.1 since IATs are so close to ambient. Most of the Miata guys I know run in the 12.5-12.7 AF with the MP62 with A2A and 12psi.


when I say 11.0:1 that's at the wideband on the header, not the wideband on the tailpipe which would read about 11.5:1 on my car. the S2000 on the dyno was almost a full point leaner on the sniffer compared to the AEM sensor. yeah my kit is a Jackson Racing kit on my B18C CRX but it's intercooled with LHT's intercooler, on the dyno the highest it got was 20 degrees over ambient on 9.5psi. we dyno'd it richer and leaner and kept going back to 11.0:1 for the most power.

if people are getting the max safe power with 11.8-12.1 based on what the dyno sniffer says then that's right about 11.0:1 on the wideband on the header. the guys running 12.5-12.7 based on the sniffer would be around 11.5-12.0 at the header's wideband, we'll keep that in mind too for when we're tuning. I go by AEM's sensor on the header since it's going to be more accurate and faster reacting than the sniffer all the way at the back and the AEM sensor is always on the car. this way we can setup the O2 feedback to keep an eye on things.

[candymanjl]

not yet, i have 50 miles on it so far. :( gonna do a decent city drive tonight :) hopefully get upto 150-200 on it.

quick findings, at 2000rpm i see 4# boost :) around town driving just got that much easier.

ahhhhh the clutch is fine :) just no racing from a dig yet :D

and stop this "4#" stuff, it's PSI! :p you're gonna confuse the redneck again :D

[mugenrios2k]

.

if people are getting the max safe power with 11.8-12.1 based on what the dyno sniffer says then that's right about 11.0:1 on the wideband on the header.


I was refering to where I got my max power which was 11.8-12.1 with a PLX wideband in the header.

Even with a TP the lambda meter at the tail pipe read about 0.1 leaner then my PLX

[CivicBeater]

ahhhhh the clutch is fine :) just no racing from a dig yet :d

and stop this "4#" stuff, it's psi! :p you're gonna confuse the redneck again :d

4#!?!?!? Wtf?!?!?

[Camuman]

car moves real nice right now. still have the timing retarded way more then it will finnally be. should have a few videos up soon :)


http://h22civic.com/videos/HDRacing/charger%20whine.wmv

two pulls in second gear thru a tunnel :) and one pull in third all wiht the top down, sorry for the wind noise, but it wont down out what you want to hear ;)

[candymanjl]

I was refering to where I got my max power which was 11.8-12.1 with a PLX wideband in the header.

Even with a TP the lambda meter at the tail pipe read about 0.1 leaner then my PLX

hummm, interesting, the dyno we go to is off by more than that compared to our AEM EMS's wideband sensor. when we get on the dyno the dyno will tell where the motor is happiest :) monday then the dyno :m16:

[candymanjl]

oh yeah, the charger sounds awesome in a tunnel :D

[gaveup]

I knew it would be in the tunnel on us1.

I swear. You two must have looked like the biggest homos ever going thru it and making uturns for a video.

Well, that and 2 dudes in an s2k with the top up is gay enough as it is.

[Almighty-Si]

Damn I gotta wait until I get home now ! Damn phones download too slow.

SWEEET!

[candymanjl]

I knew it would be in the tunnel on us1.

I swear. You two must have looked like the biggest homos ever going thru it and making uturns for a video.

Well, that and 2 dudes in an s2k with the top up is gay enough as it is.
hating on it doesn't make your car any faster :p :p :p

the car sounds pretty awesome with the charger and is pulling pretty hard considering it's missing so much timing. it'll be interesting to see the difference in power at the dyno :cool:

[Camuman]

more updates, car is crazy fun. power everywhere now. cant wait for monday dyno time :)

[Almighty-Si]

Yea get a pull of it just the way it is and then we can see where it started and where it ends up and also see the increase the degree of timing makes.

1 step colder on the plugs? Which plugs?

[Camuman]

Yea get a pull of it just the way it is and then we can see where it started and where it ends up and also see the increase the degree of timing makes.

1 step colder on the plugs? Which plugs?

ngk iridiums 1 step colder then stock. this is not needed for 6-7# but i want to run 8-9 eventually.

[Almighty-Si]

You should get a set of 2 step colder plugs as well and give those a shot. I picked up a lot going from 1 step colder to 3 step colder plugs. Though I think they were too cold for my setup I did pick up about 10-15whp. I tuned on the 1 step colder plug until it wouldn't make anymore power and then swapped in the 3 step colder plugs I was able to pull some fuel and add 2 degree of timing.

Not sure if plug type matters much but I can get you the part numbers if you wanna give it a shot. 10-15whp might not seem like a big deal but for a $16 buck plug change its a nice gain.

[CivicBeater]

damn that whine is nice! Will you be my friend!?!?!

[Camuman]

rofl. now come on dawg, we are gonna have so much fun this dragon trip. your boosted, i am boosted. hehe, rich might be the slowest out there :)

[candymanjl]

hehe, rich might be the slowest out there :)

:( maybe, unless the CRX gets sold before then, then it's on bitches! :mooner:

[Almighty-Si]

DUDE That thing is sick ! LoL

[CivicBeater]

rofl. now come on dawg, we are gonna have so much fun this dragon trip. your boosted, i am boosted. hehe, rich might be the slowest out there :)

that will be nice, and just about a first. In the past 10 years of knowing Rich his car has always been faster than mine..I think on the way down while we are cruising to the dragon I'll do a ricer flyby every 5 minutes and flick him off! HAHAHAAHAHHA

[Almighty-Si]

that will be nice, and just about a first. In the past 10 years of knowing rich his car has always been faster than mine..i think on the way down while we are cruising to the dragon i'll do a ricer flyby every 5 minutes and flick him off! Hahahaahahha

lmfao !

[Camuman]

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0451.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0452.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0453.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0454.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0455.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0456.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0457.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/sot%20blower/IMG_0458.jpg

[Camuman]

forgot to mention, the sound is sick!!!! oh wait, i have already said that repeatedly. so far already two cars now know whats up. last night tuning, a 18t wanted a peice. 2nd gear roll from 20 and by 60 the S was a few cars ahead. when the guy heard the sound of the blower he just laughed and smiled.

tonight, a turbo S got along side of me. so i popped it in third at 40, this is not the ideal gear, and well he was very surpised and laughed also. the sound is unmistakeable :)

[CivicBeater]

forgot to mention, the sound is sick!!!! oh wait, i have already said that repeatedly. so far already two cars now know whats up. last night tuning, a 18t wanted a peice. 2nd gear roll from 20 and by 60 the S was a few cars ahead. when the guy heard the sound of the blower he just laughed and smiled.

tonight, a turbo S got along side of me. so i popped it in third at 40, this is not the ideal gear, and well he was very surpised and laughed also. the sound is unmistakeable :)

hah! Just make sure it's not a blue turbo si

[DOHCIVIC]

hah! Just make sure it's not a blue turbo si

Yeah that guy cry's when he loses

[CivicBeater]

Yeah that guy cry's when he loses

that guy has never lost! :scared:

[gaveup]

rofl. now come on dawg, we are gonna have so much fun this dragon trip. your boosted, i am boosted. hehe, rich might be the slowest out there :)



Way to forget about me and my slow car :(

[Camuman]

jasons boosted, garys boosted, al's boosted. :) whoop whoop!

[Almighty-Si]

There's gonna be a whole lot of boost in NC coming April !

[candymanjl]

Way to forget about me and my slow car :(

ha ha, you're right, we did forget about you, with you going I won't be the slowest if I'm still stock :D

[Camuman]

another video

http://h22civic.com/videos/S2000/s2k%20haulin%20ass.wmv

[candymanjl]

the S is fun now :) now driving mine feels even slower :(

[CivicBeater]

the S is fun now :) now driving mine feels even slower :(

lol

[candymanjl]

yeah, it's no fun to go from a 110+ mph trap speed car to a 100 mph trap car :)

[CivicBeater]

Way to forget about me and my slow car :(

are you coming to deals gap with us? I don't know, might not be fun getting spanked by hondas all weekend. :owned::owned:

[Camuman]

are you coming to deals gap with us? I don't know, might not be fun getting spanked by hondas all weekend. :owned::owned:

yeah he will be there. the wrx is no slouch. if i had to guess, 105-108 trap car ;)

[CivicBeater]

yeah he will be there. the wrx is no slouch. if i had to guess, 105-108 trap car ;)

I'll have to see it to believe it.

[Almighty-Si]

What the hell I try calling and no answer ! You know I got a thing with patience :mad:

[Camuman]

im sorry dude, it was loud in there!

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/dyno/ant-blower-6psi.jpg


not too shabby. stock exhuast hurt more then i thought it would :( next dyno will be stock exhuast with 8# pulley :)

[CivicBeater]

wow, nice power curve! Pretty good transition into vtec. Mine drops like a bitch, hopefully will be easier to smooth out now that I don't have leaks and everything acting weird.

WTF letting off at 8500??!? Change that bitch to 9k you pansy ass!

p.s. I'm going to smoke your ass!

[candymanjl]

wow, nice power curve! Pretty good transition into vtec. Mine drops like a bitch, hopefully will be easier to smooth out now that I don't have leaks and everything acting weird.

WTF letting off at 8500??!? Change that bitch to 9k you pansy ass!

p.s. I'm going to smoke your ass!

2.0L AP1's get to rev to 9000. 2.2L AP2's get the extra displacement and torque and "only" get to rev to 8000 :)

[Camuman]

http://h22civic.com/videos/S2000/s2k%20dyno%206psi.wmv

:)

[gaveup]

are you coming to deals gap with us? I don't know, might not be fun getting spanked by hondas all weekend. :owned::owned:



We'll see about that.

And I only race from digs, so I hope you have your dancing shoes on....

[CivicBeater]

We'll see about that.

And I only race from digs, so I hope you have your dancing shoes on....

sweet, i hope your tires are bullet proof :uzi:

[Almighty-Si]

LoL SWEET ! That thing sounds so sick.

Rich: What's with that dip in the 3-4k area? Did you try adding timing there? Did the torque just not want to come up?

Did you guys do a pull with the map you street tuned? What did it put down?

Man I can't wait to see this thing !

[candymanjl]

We'll see about that.

And I only race from digs, so I hope you have your dancing shoes on....
I ran you from a dig once, how did that work out again :D

[candymanjl]

LoL SWEET ! That thing sounds so sick.

Rich: What's with that dip in the 3-4k area? Did you try adding timing there? Did the torque just not want to come up?

Did you guys do a pull with the map you street tuned? What did it put down?

Man I can't wait to see this thing !

actually the base tune we built was more or less where we ended up 20 or so runs later. we played with leaning it out, with richening it, then adding timing, then taking away timing. we always either lost power or ended up back where we started. nothing effected that dip in a significant way, it's probably got more to do with the stock exhaust than anything. what's funny is that on the road you don't feel that dip at all.

[Paradox]

all this money you spent on this kit...and no exhaust?? really?

otherwise its f-ing sweeeeet

[gaveup]

all this money you spent on this kit...and no exhaust?? really?

otherwise its f-ing sweeeeet

Well, I believe he has a header and test pipe, but I almost agree with him on this: He doesn't want it loud, and I don't blame him, hondas sound like shit.

[candymanjl]

well, the test pipe not being resonated doesn't help the cause :(

[CivicBeater]

Well, I believe he has a header and test pipe, but I almost agree with him on this: He doesn't want it loud, and I don't blame him, hondas sound like shit.

I actually like the way my honda sounds.

[Almighty-Si]

actually the base tune we built was more or less where we ended up 20 or so runs later. we played with leaning it out, with richening it, then adding timing, then taking away timing. we always either lost power or ended up back where we started. nothing effected that dip in a significant way, it's probably got more to do with the stock exhaust than anything. what's funny is that on the road you don't feel that dip at all.

Yea probably exhaust if timing didn't do anything to the powerband. I wonder how that exhaust will affect the power on the next pulley.

Did you get to play with the plugs at all?

[CivicBeater]

Yea probably exhaust if timing didn't do anything to the powerband. I wonder how that exhaust will affect the power on the next pulley.

Did you get to play with the plugs at all?

<--says get exhaust before new pulley.

[Almighty-Si]

I know how he's feeling about his exhaust though. I'm liking mine cause of how quiet it is but I know I would make more power if I swapped it with a 3inch but then who knows what its gonna sound like.

If he can find something he likes and that he can bare with then why not but the bunch of exhausts I've heard for the S2000's are pretty damn loud.

Oh and when the hell you going to make it back to the dyno? I wanna see the improvement with the boost leak fixed !

[Camuman]

ehh, i dont know. the upped pulley even on my stock exhuast will still produce gains. might just throw it on eitherway. i know my sweet spot for AF. i am shopping for exhuasts, but need to pick one first, then find best price new/used for it.

gonna take some time.

in the meantime, i compared my dyno numbers to kraftwerks 5psi kit and vortech 7psi kit. sxm roots blower FTW!

[CivicBeater]

Yeah but freaking upgrading my exhaust did wonders!!! I always thought I would just do without because of sound/looks of my old one. Which was uber sexy if I might add. I really kicked myself hard in the nuts after I went to 70mm for even debating the issue. My car now pulls a lot better and more importantly runs sooo much smoother. It will free up alot of power.

Couple weeks I go back on the dyno :)

[Almighty-Si]

Hey I like power just as much as the next guy but sanity isn't so bad either. Loud exhausts get really old really fast. Picture driving Gary's car right now, everyday...LoL

[CivicBeater]

Hey I like power just as much as the next guy but sanity isn't so bad either. Loud exhausts get really old really fast. Picture driving Gary's car right now, everyday...LoL

lol it doesn't have to be that loud. I mean my skank 2 can be pretty loud at WOT but damn. You gotta pay to play! Well I'll let it be, I'm trying to help the guy out a little so when I spank him it's not AS bad. Oh well.

[Camuman]

so much talkin!! i hope your cranking that boost to the tune of 300whp ;)

j/k. its gonna be so much fun. cant wait to see this new dyno pull for ya!

[candymanjl]

Yea probably exhaust if timing didn't do anything to the powerband. I wonder how that exhaust will affect the power on the next pulley.

Did you get to play with the plugs at all?

yeah timing didn't do too much. didn't have any other plugs to try, we're running 1 range colder which is what the guy sent with the kit.

[CivicBeater]

so much talkin!! i hope your cranking that boost to the tune of 300whp ;)

j/k. its gonna be so much fun. cant wait to see this new dyno pull for ya!

hahah my sack isn't THAT big!

[gaveup]

hahah my sack isn't THAT big!


Awww come on. Not even 300whp and you're talking pretty confidently about spanking me.

Cute.

:gayflip:

[CivicBeater]

Awww come on. Not even 300whp and you're talking pretty confidently about spanking me.

Cute.

:gayflip:

how much are you putting down especially with your extra 500lbs of fat??

[mugenrios2k]

One step colder plugs is all you need at this boost level.

However power could possible be gained if 2 step colder plug was used and more timing was added in.

Did you guys have an egt probe?

Retarding the timing to much can also cause a spike in EGT temps.
However where you guys are at now (1 deg per lbs) is in the normal range.

The stock exhaust is causing some back pressure so it slowing down the exhaust gas which is possibly causing more heat to be transferred to the head/block which would explain why you did not gain any power when adding timing back in.

[CivicBeater]

The stock exhaust is causing some back pressure so it slowing down the exhaust gas which is possibly causing more heat to be transferred to the head/block which would explain why you did not gain any power when adding timing back in.

HA! Told you so ant, you bitch! Buy a new exhaust and stop being a pansy! :foultalk:

[mugenrios2k]

I kept it simple there is a very complicated when it comes to the effect of exhaust systems on over all power output.
An exhaust does a lot more then just give a path for exhaust gasses to come out of a motor

Exhaust velocity,
backpressure
exhaust scavenging
Turbulence,
Heat transfer to the head/block due to slow, turbulent exhaust gasses
Pumping losses.

The list goes on and on.

[candymanjl]

HA! Told you so ant, you bitch! Buy a new exhaust and stop being a pansy! :foultalk:
ha ha ha, quote of the thread :D

[candymanjl]

I kept it simple there is a very complicated when it comes to the effect of exhaust systems on over all power output.
An exhaust does a lot more then just give a path for exhaust gasses to come out of a motor

Exhaust velocity,
backpressure
exhaust scavenging
Turbulence,
Heat transfer to the head/block due to slow, turbulent exhaust gasses
Pumping losses.

The list goes on and on.
a whole bunch of reasons to go online and see what other people do and learn from them before buying an exhaust :)

[Camuman]

i think i am gonna go with asura 3" :) i will post some sound clips of his.

[Camuman]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/bf9f5e62-9a5a-4597-aeaf-9a2a0105b9bd.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e5a68503-a231-4b29-b2db-9a2a010a8faa.htm

[gaveup]

how much are you putting down especially with your extra 500lbs of fat??



By fat, I really hope you are referring to car weight.

And at that, I would like to see where you get 500lbs from.

Si
Curb Weight: 2895 lbs.

WRX (they do not have the proper weight for the TR. Although most are sub 3100)
Curb Weight: 3192 lbs.

I don't have any NEW numbers, but my old numbers on the old turbo were 240whp/290wtq on a mustang dyno. That's around what you're making, no?

[candymanjl]

By fat, I really hope you are referring to car weight.

And at that, I would like to see where you get 500lbs from.

Si
Curb Weight: 2895 lbs.

WRX (they do not have the proper weight for the TR. Although most are sub 3100)
Curb Weight: 3192 lbs.

I don't have any NEW numbers, but my old numbers on the old turbo were 240whp/290wtq on a mustang dyno. That's around what you're making, no?
ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Eric got served yo! :D :D :D I see a rivalry brewing that will have to get settled in April :D

[CivicBeater]

By fat, I really hope you are referring to car weight.

And at that, I would like to see where you get 500lbs from.

Si
Curb Weight: 2895 lbs.

WRX (they do not have the proper weight for the TR. Although most are sub 3100)
Curb Weight: 3192 lbs.

I don't have any NEW numbers, but my old numbers on the old turbo were 240whp/290wtq on a mustang dyno. That's around what you're making, no?

In a couple weeks we'll see :) Don't make me awd drift pass your ass in april. lol

Yeah Rich, I think he's a little bitter after constantly getting worked by hondas. :) I'm like that wounded sheep in the pasture and he's the big bad wolf. hahahaha

[candymanjl]

lol, so much smack talking, I love it! :D

[gaveup]

In a couple weeks we'll see :) Don't make me awd drift pass your ass in april. lol

Yeah Rich, I think he's a little bitter after constantly getting worked by hondas. :) I'm like that wounded sheep in the pasture and he's the big bad wolf. hahahaha

For the record, I have only gotten beaten by 1 honda, and that was rich's CRX.

I even pulled that one s2k that your car was even with...on stock turbo. woooooooo

[candymanjl]

ha ha, April will be fun :D

back on topic a little, Ant post that exhaust you were looking at :D

[CivicBeater]

I even pulled that one s2k that your car was even with...on stock turbo. woooooooo

yeah that was with a leaking BOV and a leaking flange. Basically ran him like a stock si with no intake. haha That's all fixed now, and it would have been a different story. Not taking anything away from ant's car prior to blower because it was quick. Mine was just leaking boost like a bitch!

[gaveup]

yeah that was with a leaking BOV and a leaking flange. Basically ran him like a stock si with no intake. haha That's all fixed now, and it would have been a different story. Not taking anything away from ant's car prior to blower because it was quick. Mine was just leaking boost like a bitch!

Sounds like fun ;)

[candymanjl]

yeah that was with a leaking BOV and a leaking flange. Basically ran him like a stock si with no intake. haha That's all fixed now, and it would have been a different story. Not taking anything away from ant's car prior to blower because it was quick. Mine was just leaking boost like a bitch!
lol, stock Si's don't dyno 225whp ;)

[CivicBeater]

lol, stock Si's don't dyno 225whp ;)

yeah well it was like 205 with all the leaks. :(

[CivicBeater]

Sounds like fun ;)

run for pinks??? :bigthumb::bigthumb:

[candymanjl]

run for pinks??? :bigthumb::bigthumb:
sure, I'll either be in the CRX or a turbo S, either way I'll run you for pinks :D

[CivicBeater]

sure, I'll either be in the CRX or a turbo S, either way I'll run you for pinks :D

hahaha :crying::crying:

[Almighty-Si]

Oh damn someone call Rich Christiansen !

[candymanjl]

lol, is that the pinks guy's name?

[CivicBeater]

To spank list:

2 blue s2k's
1 blue wrx

Who else wants some???

[Camuman]

bring it pretty boy!!!!!!!! BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP shift BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP shift <LOOKS BACK HITS HAZARDS>

[candymanjl]

To spank list:

2 blue s2k's
1 blue wrx

Who else wants some???

who's the other blue s2k?

[Camuman]

some pics of the exhaust i am looking at

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/asura%20exhaust/IMG_1778.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/asura%20exhaust/IMG_2633.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/asura%20exhaust/IMG_2637.jpg

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/asura%20exhaust/PICT0017.jpg

heres the tips i would get with it :)

http://h22civic.com/pictures/2005%20S2k/asura%20exhaust/oval%20tips.jpg

[candymanjl]

oval tips own, just do it :D

[Almighty-Si]

DAMN I don't wanna be behind Ant on the 40 in April :eek:

[CivicBeater]

the ovals are nice, but look way to stock for me. The round ones just give a nice subtle hint like WTF does this guy have something done to his car?!

[candymanjl]

anthony just needs to get the titanium J's Racing exhaust :D saves 50 pounds over the stock exhaust!

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/js_racing_dual_rs.jpg

[Camuman]

anthony just needs to get the titanium J's Racing exhaust :D saves 50 pounds over the stock exhaust!

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/js_racing_dual_rs.jpg

what size is the piping?

[Almighty-Si]

anthony just needs to get the titanium J's Racing exhaust :D saves 50 pounds over the stock exhaust!

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/js_racing_dual_rs.jpg

LoL ! What is that exhaust cost like 6 grand?

[mugenrios2k]

its light but would not help get you any more power.

I believe the dim is the same as stock

[candymanjl]

what size is the piping?

70mm, stock is 57mm.

LoL ! What is that exhaust cost like 6 grand?

lol, yeah it's like $1,770, they're all expensive for the S2000, just about anything that actually gains power is over $1,000 :( by the time Ant gets the oval tips on the other exhaust this is only a little more ("little" being relative :) )

its light but would not help get you any more power.

I believe the dim is the same as stock

they sell a 60mm and a 70mm. 60mm is only 3mm over stock, I really doubt that does anything, 70mm should gain power though. the one camuman is looking at is 3" (76.2mm) until the rear when it splits to daul 2.5" (63.5mm), that probably flows more than this with 70mm (2.75") the whole way. this is just cool because of the weight savings, less weight = more speed :D

[Camuman]

asura asura asura :)

[CivicBeater]

i'm rollin' 70 mm :) besides my 3" test pipe :)

[candymanjl]

asura asura asura :)
asura, J's racing, whatever, DO SOMETHING ALREADY! :D mo powa!!!

[CivicBeater]

asura, J's racing, whatever, DO SOMETHING ALREADY! :D mo powa!!!

welded titianium is uber baller.

Just get a bigger pipe already man :goofylaug

[candymanjl]

if someone would have gotten a turbo kit we could just run open downpipe :D

[CivicBeater]

if someone would have gotten a turbo kit we could just run open downpipe :D

the advantages of living in FL :biggrin:

[gaveup]

asura asura asura :)


Ugh.

You need to stop being such a faggot and actually wanting to spend top dollar on every part for your car. You want to spend over 1k for bent fucking pipes? That doesn't even compute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObLnO_thkCA

I am almost certain you can modify a AP1 exhaust to fit no? If so:
http://www.meganracing.com/products/product_detail.asp?prodid=899&catid=102

Under $700 SHIPPED:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Megan-Catback-OE-RS-Dual-Exhaust-Honda-S2000-00-05-2-5_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1 Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35 0138416361QQitemZ350138416361QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fT ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Or, if you wanted to actually make power and take all those useless bends and dual exhaust spliting off at 90 degrees out of the equation you get this:
http://www.meganracing.com/products/product_detail.asp?prodid=629&catid=90

Under $400 and you can add another resonator in there to quit it down to grandpa levels.

Like I said, spending that much on piping is just stupid.

[Camuman]

now you knwo i dont always want to spend top dollar on exhaust, hell, if that was the case, they go to 3-4k ;)

1300 gets me 3" mid pipe, 2.75" exhaust pipes, stock sounding at idle, not loud at wot, and some serious gains :)

[Almighty-Si]

I don't know Ant, from the sound clips you posted, it's a bit on the loud side. Unless it's just the video, or my old age...LoL

Guess I am just used to mine.

[CivicBeater]

Ugh.

You need to stop being such a faggot and actually wanting to spend top dollar on every part for your car. You want to spend over 1k for bent fucking pipes? That doesn't even compute.



Like I said, spending that much on piping is just stupid.

LMAO, I knew I liked you! HAHAHAHAHA

[Paradox]

the ovals are nice, but look way to stock for me. The round ones just give a nice subtle hint like WTF does this guy have something done to his car?!



oem is sleek. adds to the sleeper effect

[CivicBeater]

oem is sleek. adds to the sleeper effect

Have you not listened to the videos, by far not a sleeper when he gets on it. LOL

[Paradox]

and it is cause for an eargasm...but i'd rather hear the whine of the s/c than the blaring of an exhaust

[mugenrios2k]

another one is joining the family:beer:


http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff219/mugenrios2k/matt_01.jpg

[candymanjl]

Have you not listened to the videos, by far not a sleeper when he gets on it. LOL
there's not an exhaust on the planet that doesn't get louder when you get on it. as long as it's relatively quiet during normal driving and doesn't drone on the highway then it's good.

[candymanjl]

another one is joining the family:beer:

true, how many PSI is he gonna run? what mods will it have besides the kit?

[mugenrios2k]

everything stock + the blower; 6psi


but we all know how that goes he will eventually want more.:roflmao:

[Camuman]

you can never stay stock!!!!! i said that 3 years ago when i bought my car. now look, standalone blown suspension rims etc etc!

[CivicBeater]

you can never stay stock!!!!! i said that 3 years ago when i bought my car. now look, standalone blown suspension rims etc etc!


You just took awhile to catch on....Or was it me blowing the doors off your car that encouraged you?!? :tongue: haha sike

[mugenrios2k]

I got mine home with 10miles on the OD and I right away started modifying things.

[candymanjl]

yeah, stock = gay :)

and eric, it took a huge thread to get you to boost your Si instead of buying another car so you can't talk :p

once I sell my CRX the S is getting boosted with the quickness :D

[Almighty-Si]

and eric, it took a huge thread to get you to boost your Si instead of buying another car so you can't talk

Amen ! I fought tooth and nail with him on that subject. Crap think it ended up 18 pages long...LoL