To Swap or Not To Swap????

[Checkmate]

I just bought a 2000 Civic Si, the b16 came with along with 160 hp. Well... these days 160 hp just dosent cut it for me so im thinking of a swap with either a B18c5 or a H22a, and maybe even a turbo charger with that.Also what are the advantages of a twin turbo??.I got money to burn. Any Advise????

[This message was edited by Checkmate on September 07, 2002 at 01:36 AM.]

[DLS TekNiQue]

well if you got money to burn...i suggest the B18c5 (200 hp)...if it will fit under your hood, which im not sure if it will or not. Is the 2000 the hatch or the coupe? then turbo it, blow off valve, intercooler, cold air intake, full exhaust system, DC 4-1 headers, stage III clutch, black widow body kit, a wing, some rims, custom interior...fo sho

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> '98 Civic EX Vtec Coupe <
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>> AEM cold air intake
>> full STP exhaust
>> short shifter
>> lowered
>> tinted windows
>> Integra bucket seats
>> StreetGlow Indiglo neon-blue chrome pedals
>> StreetGlow 20" neon-blue interior light
>>> more mods to come soon once i get $$

[Paradox]

if you wanted to do a swap, why'd you get a SI, its a waste of money. i think if you want more HP, sell the SI, buy a regular civic and swap into that. you'll have extra money

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[CivicBeater]

twin turbo + Honda Civic = Overkill (you will die, along with your motor)

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[SPOOLEDCRXB18]

UMMM JUST A QUESTION TECKNIQUE,
IF HE PUT A TURBO KIT ON THE CAR WHY WOULD HE HAVE A 4-1 HEADER, AND A COLD AIR INTAKE?JUST A THOUGHT! CHECKMATE IT DEPENDS IF YOU WANNA GO ALL MOTOR OR FORCED INDUCTION.YOU CAN KEEP THE B16 PUT A NICE TURBO KIT WITH SOME RODS AND PISTONS,SOME FUEL, COUPLE OF OTHER LIL THINGS AND THE CAR WOULD RUN VERY WELL.IF YOU WANTED TO GO ALL MOTOR A TYPE R WOULD DO THE JOB NICELY AND HAS TONS OF POTENTIAL. YOU COULD ALSO DO THE INFAMOUS LS\VTEC OR B20\VTEC.THE CHOICES GO ON AND ON.HOPED I HELPED SOME!GOOD LUCK

[DLS TekNiQue]

arent si's all wheel drive? if they are then it is worht the engine swap if you got money to burn...and why not a cold air intake with a turbo???

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[[ my ride ]]
> '98 Civic EX Vtec Coupe <
>> custom white paintjob
>> AEM cold air intake
>> full STP exhaust
>> short shifter
>> lowered
>> tinted windows
>> Integra bucket seats
>> StreetGlow Indiglo neon-blue chrome pedals
>> StreetGlow 20" neon-blue interior light
>>> more mods to come soon once i get $$

[accordy2g]

Si's are not AWD.

[BSeRiEsHaTcH69]

if this dude makes another post ohhhhh lord. nah jpin wit ya. im just too lazy to smack some knowledge down.
Joe

93 Si with B18c5
COMING SOON

[DLS TekNiQue]

my homie has an AWD si...and ive heard everyone say they are AWD

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[[ my ride ]]
> '98 Civic EX Vtec Coupe <
>> custom white paintjob
>> AEM cold air intake
>> full STP exhaust
>> short shifter
>> lowered
>> tinted windows
>> Integra bucket seats
>> StreetGlow Indiglo neon-blue chrome pedals
>> StreetGlow 20" neon-blue interior light
>>> more mods to come soon once i get $$

[19civic99]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DLS TekNiQue:
my homie has an AWD si...and ive heard everyone say they are AWD


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*LOL* hahah well your "homie" is a bloody moron...

maybe your "homie" has an eagle talon TSi...those are AWD.....so maybe you got Si and TSi mixed up...also turbo's, headers, and CAI, dont work togther, the turbo takes care of both...

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[DLS TekNiQue]

well my friend has a WRX with an intake...so why cant you have a turbo with a cold air intake? cause WRX are turbo and he has a intake on it

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[[ my ride ]]
> '98 Civic EX Vtec Coupe <
>> custom white paintjob
>> AEM cold air intake
>> full STP exhaust
>> short shifter
>> lowered
>> tinted windows
>> Integra bucket seats
>> StreetGlow Indiglo neon-blue chrome pedals
>> StreetGlow 20" neon-blue interior light
>>> more mods to come soon once i get $$

[19civic99]

well from what i know after market turbo kits have a filter that sucks into the turbo, through the IC pipes, into the IC which changes the air to cold air for you, because turbos compress air, which we all know compress air is hot, anyways from the IC into the throttle body, then intake manifold...

i dont know much on WRX's?? chris help us out!

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some mods... :)
JDM B16..hopefully soon....
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[CivicBeater]

well my friend has a porsche and it has four wheels, so there :p

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[Rob Jones]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DLS TekNiQue:
well my friend has a WRX with an intake...so why cant you have a turbo with a cold air intake? cause WRX are turbo and he has a intake on it
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http://a0.cpimg.com/image/7E/0C/11888510-e2d2-02000180-.jpg

Turboed No Intake or filter whatsoever.

http://a3.cpimg.com/image/89/67/12534153-85c6-028001E0-.jpg

Closest you can get to CAI turbo.

No Si's are not AWD. Do some research before you post. Most people aren't as nice as we are here on this board.

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[DLS TekNiQue]

damn, kick back dawg...im new to all of this...just trying to learn more bout cars

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[[ my ride ]]
> '98 Civic EX Vtec Coupe <
>> custom white paintjob
>> AEM cold air intake
>> full STP exhaust
>> short shifter
>> lowered
>> tinted windows
>> Integra bucket seats
>> StreetGlow Indiglo neon-blue chrome pedals
>> StreetGlow 20" neon-blue interior light
>>> more mods to come soon once i get $$

[19civic99]

no problem..i was just having a bad day! :cool:

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some mods... :)
JDM B16..hopefully soon....
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[Rob Jones]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DLS TekNiQue:
damn, kick back dawg...im new to all of this...just trying to learn more bout cars
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I understand that and I was once in your position. We all were once there. It's not a problem. I'm just trying to let you know we are nice and easy on newbies here at WWW.CLUBHONDA.COM (http://WWW.CLUBHONDA.COM)

Other people would flame you right off of their site. If you don't believe me go to Clubsi or Honda-Tech and see for yourself. We are not here to do that. We are here to offer you help and guidance so that next time you will know what you are talking about. Just READ and LEARN form people who know more than you. I've been into the scene for awhile now and I still have lots to learn.

Don't take it personal. Good Day to you. :)

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[Checkmate]

I Think you guys kinda got off track of the question..

[19civic99]

well basically what you should do if you want to swap...sell the SI, and bye some cheaper such as an EX,DX and swap a B18C5 in it or B18C1 and you will still have lots of money left for mods...makes sence to me...

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some mods... :)
JDM B16..hopefully soon....
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[Firejust]

WTF? no filter on the intake.... thats just asking for trouble... I dont care who you are, dust will get sucked in and it will score the cylinders. Sorry, its just a fact of life. NTM, its horrible for the turbo, After a while, a piece of metal spinning in excess of 60,000 RPM is gonna get worn down by dust.

[Checkmate]

I Actually got a tight ass deal and paid $8,000 for my 2000 si. 30k miles, practically brand New. I bought it from the Police Impound Lot so i got about an extra 10k to play wit. Im thinkin about selling the b16 and puting in a b18c5 and a turbo. However i heard that an engine that size might alter the streering dynamic. I dont know how true that is but Any Advise why i shouldent do this swap?????

[Rob Jones]

well I wouldn't do it if you want to go turbo. I would get the GSR B18c1 and turbo that. I have heard lots of things about the B18C5 not responding well to turbo. Probably because it comes to the factory as a N/A beast. The wieght shouldn't be a problem. Now If you had an H22 that could be a problem in hatch but not so much in a coupe.

Oh yea and filters are good no matter which way you go. :D

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[JAYRACER18]

Damn man you got a really good deal, was anything wrong with it when you bought it?

'93 civic si hatch

[sohcmydohc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Checkmate:
Im thinkin about selling the b16 and puting in a b18c5 and a turbo. However i heard that an engine that size might alter the streering dynamic. I dont know how true that is but Any Advise why i shouldent do this swap?????[/quote]

the b18c5 won't alter the handling in your civic drastically.

the only advice i'd give to you is to first decide what your goals are for your car. do you want it to be a daily driver or a trailer queen? what are your hp goals? quarter mile goals? that'll give us a better indication of what you need.

i say this only because you mentioned a b18c5 with a turbo. now, you must be ready to spend a lot of money on the engine, turbo, fuel management, and tuning required. someone esle mentioned an h22a. now while that engine is much cheaper than the b18c5, installation will be harder and parts may need to be custom fabricated in order to keep a/c, ps, or to make room for the turbo. that all translates into a lot more money. and these engines on high boost and proper tuning become high hp monsters more suitable for the track.

if you just want your car to be faster, i suggest boosting your b16. the b16 is a good engine with a ton of potential. you won't have to pay for an engine swap or any labor, and you'll have quite a bit of money to put a nice turbo, misc parts, and fuel management in. and still have money left over to tune it properly. a finely tuned boosted b16 is much faster than you think.

sorry this was so long. just my 2 cents.

[DLS TekNiQue]

i am thinking of doing a swap into my 98 EX...and ive been talking to some people at school, and one of them said he might be able to get me an LS for $900. Then he said to turbo it and put a Vtec head on it. Now I am looking for lots of speed, as well as a daily driver. Any other suggestions. Oh my funds are limited too. Right now im looking for a job and have $20 bucks :( . I want to get the best engine I can get for the best price.

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> '98 Civic EX Vtec Coupe <
>> custom white paintjob
>> AEM cold air intake
>> full STP exhaust
>> short shifter
>> lowered
>> tinted windows
>> Integra bucket seats
>> StreetGlow Indiglo neon-blue chrome pedals
>> StreetGlow 20" neon-blue interior light
>>> more mods to come soon once i get $$

[Checkmate]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sohcmydohc:

the only advice i'd give to you is to first decide what your goals are for your car. do you want it to be a daily driver or a trailer queen? what are your hp goals? quarter mile goals? that'll give us a better indication of what you need.[QUOTE]

Well I plan to just keep on tuneing as time goes by untill i have the quickest quarter mile civic i can put togeather and and not drastically alter the steering,a/c and such too much.For a "Daily Driver"car I thought the b18c5 would be best on a quarter mile for its high rev's and high hp. Should i drop the turbo and get a supercharger or just stay all motor???? or if go with the b16, which type???

[sohcmydohc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Checkmate:

Well I plan to just keep on tuneing as time goes by untill i have the quickest quarter mile civic i can put togeather and and not drastically alter the steering,a/c and such too much.For a "Daily Driver"car I thought the b18c5 would be best on a quarter mile for its high rev's and high hp. Should i drop the turbo and get a supercharger or just stay all motor???? or if go with the b16, which type???[/quote]

you're gonna have to decide whether or not you want to go fi or n/a. different people will give you different opinions on which they feel is the better route to go. but in the end, it's really your choice. fi is the easier way to high horsepower. if i had your goals, i would say fi would be the route to choose.

if fi is your choice, i would pick the turbo over the supercharger. again, this is only my opinion. i'm sure there maybe some people out there who would rather have a supercharger.

now you said you had 10k to play with. that's quite a bit of money. but while the b18c5 is a great engine, n/a or turbo (with proper tuning), it is expensive. if you choose the b18c5, assume you'll be dropping approximately 5k for it, unless you find an amazing deal or have some sort of hook up. and that's not counting labor for install. now your 10k is cut in half. that's why i recommend just keeping your b16 and boosting that. with the proper parts and tuning, you'll be posting real nice numbers.

[19civic99]

sell the Si, get a 92 civic hatch, but a B18C1 in it, boost it,tune it and lots on engine shit with the rest of the money, wheels and slicks...gut the fuck out of it and there low 12's, high 11's...easy as pie! :p

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[*92Lude*]

Get a fat bitch, sit on her back.. take one hand and tug the shit of her muff hair, and make your other hand into a fist and ram it in her ass.. you'll be hitting high 12's i bet

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[19civic99]

high 12's??

hitting a fat bitch??
maybe hitting high 12 inch waves of back fat! hahha

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some mods... :)
JDM B16..hopefully soon....
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[candymanjl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *92Lude*:
Get a fat bitch, sit on her back.. take one hand and tug the shit of her muff hair, and make your other hand into a fist and ram it in her ass.. you'll be hitting high 12's i bet
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:( bad mental image, gotta go now http://www.clubhonda.com/images/ubbicons/leaving.gif

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[Checkmate]

Question: whats a better engine to start with for runing quick quarter miles(i maybe plan to hook up a turbo later on): a b16, b16a, b16b,or b18c5???

[19civic99]

id say b18c1,
b18c5's are not but for turbo's because of the high compression, but if done right...look out :eek:

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some mods... :)
JDM B18C1..hopefully soon....
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[Checkmate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 19civic99:
id say b18c1,
b18c5's are not but for turbo's because of the high compression, but if done right...look out[/quote]



What about a B16B???

[candymanjl]

you can turbo the CTR or ITR motors, just gotta be conservative because of the higher compression. other than keeping the boost a little lower, there's no reason not to boost one of those motors.

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[19civic99]

cause they are N/A monsters....

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some mods... :)
JDM B18C1..hopefully soon....
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[sohcmydohc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Checkmate:
Question: whats a better engine to start with for runing quick quarter miles(i maybe plan to hook up a turbo later on): a b16, b16a, b16b,or b18c5???[/quote]

any of these engines can be built for quick quarter miles. but you should decide which route you want to go: all motor or forced induction. the build up of the engine is different for each of these routes. so if you're planning to boost later, don't go out and waste your money building your engine for all motor. deciding before you start will save you a lot of time and money. but hey, it's your money. this is just advice.

[Checkmate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sohcmydohc:
any of these engines can be built for quick quarter miles. but you should decide which route you want to go: all motor or forced induction. the build up of the engine is different for each of these routes. so if you're planning to boost later, don't go out and waste your money building your engine for all motor. deciding before you start will save you a lot of time and money. but hey, it's your money. this is just advice.[/quote]
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So which Engines Are N/A and which are not????

[sohcmydohc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Checkmate:
So which Engines Are N/A and which are not????[/quote]

all the honda engines listed are n/a. but if you intend to keep the motor n/a and increase it's performance, the build up of the engine is completely different than if you were to choose f/i.

[Checkmate]

Why is a b18c1 better than a b16a??

[candymanjl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Checkmate:
Why is a b18c1 better than a b16a??[/quote]


the B18C1 (gs-r motor) is 1.8L where the B16A is 1.6L. basically the b18C1 is about the same HP but more torque. in the end it'll be a faster motor in your car, but costs a little more.

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[Checkmate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by candymanjl:
the B18C1 (gs-r motor) is 1.8L where the B16A is 1.6L. basically the b18C1 is about the same HP but more torque. in the end it'll be a faster motor in your car, but costs a little more.
[/quote]


yeah but the b16a weighs less and has a higher redline. Which would work best with turbo?

[candymanjl]

both the B18C and B16A have a 8,000 rpm redline. and I've had both motors, there's very little difference in weight. the B18C has a slightly bigger intake manifold and the block is 7mm taller, so that's about the only things that would make it heavier. besides, the weight is up front, on the front tires, which is where you want more weight for traction under accelleration.

as for which is better for turbo, you'll get more power from the B18C, and the displacement will help spool the turbo quicker. I noticed the slower spool when I went from the B16A down the the B18C. but you'll get about the same HP from both, the B18C will just give you more power down low.

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[Checkmate]

http://www.hondaswap.com/reference/index.php?mode=engine&id=17

[Checkmate]

What exactly's so special about an LS Vtec?

[candymanjl]

basically the lsvtec is just a way to upgrade a B16A to 1.8L without buying a gs-r block, which makes it cheaper.

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[Checkmate]

So Basically the less compression, the more power you get from turbo? and if so is there a way to lower compression? Ps: Superchargers are more efficient with low compression also?

[SPOOLEDCRXB18]

Less compression doesnt neccessarily mean more power, with less compression you can get away with more boost without the fear of it detonating, but it is not uncommon to see race motors with 10:1 compression with a lot of boost.I know we are talking about stock motors, so this really has nothing to do with it,but just for your future reference. A supercharger is more efficient in the sense that you have pretty much all your power as soon as you hit the gas because there is no lag,but they also suck up power because there is more parasitic drag,whereas a turbo uses spent exhaust gasses to make its power.As you can see it gets very technical,but I would suggest going turbo because it is proven that they make more power and allow more adjustability with tuning.And you can always buy a kit now that will serve as a good basis for making power when you are stock and eventually when you build the motor.

[Projekt7Tuning]

A high compression motor, extremely built, with Turbo, will still be faster than a low compression, extremely built, N/A. Most of the pro turbo imports are running VERY high compression on enormous Turbos. However, for everyday applications, if you are going to drop a Turbo in your ride, best to drop down the compression with new pistons.

[Projekt7Tuning]

Wow, you chose to purchase an SI to perform a swap. You know as much as it sounds wierd, you are not the only one! There are a lot of swaps out there on this car. I would say if you got the cash, definetly go with the b18c5. That is problably the best result if you can fund that project. Otherwise even the normal GSR motor is going to be more powerful than your b16. Keep in mind also, that the motor you have not is not useless, you can get decent money for a used USDM Civic SI motor, and tranny. That will help you get funds to go towards the swap. If you want the realistic, and economical answer, sell the SI, get a wrecked coupe, or a rolling chasis (MUCH CHEAPER than your SI) and build up from there. If you can not do that (stuck in payments etc.) then just try and sell the motor you have and build the b18c5. Good luck!

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[Checkmate]

I was looking at the specs on the H22A from the 99-01 US prelude's and there pretty impressive, (200 hp @ 7000,
156 Torque @ 5250,
10.0:1 Compression).
I thought i had my mind set on a b18c1 but now i dont know what to get. I know the b18 would be an easier swap to do and the h22 would need a mount kit and may loose a/c and power steering but is there any other dis advantages about getting the h22????

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[oneslow4door]

B18 BOLT RIGHT UP U MIGHT HAVE TO GeT A DIFFERENT MOTOR mount if u need that but if u build a b18c5 for lots of boost "turbo" i promice you that you will not be dissapointed exspecilly if u get axles and tranny reinforced with lsd so u can make it get traction . but if it was me i would just build the motor u have convert it to obd 1 if it is not allready and build that motor like hell b/c u look b18c5 5000 to 6000 bucks and then u will want to build that for more boost so if u just invest the 6000 dollors to begin with then turbo that u will be fast as hell and have money left over for pimpin out your ride

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[candymanjl]

the B18C5 type r motor is just too much $$$. for the cost of that swap over a B16A, you could get a crower stroker kit on the B16A and aftermarket LSD and spend tha same money and have a built motor.

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[JeremyL]

to the other b18's like the A1 and the B1 or hell even the very unspoken of B17A, the A1 and B1's are probably the cheapest of the b sereis motors to get ur hands on and are just as good of a starting point if not better for FI projects. The LS blocks only rev to 6800 so ur not gonna add even more stress to your engine by having to rev the crap out of it to get the power you want and theres no reason that youc ant get the power you want at 6800

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